We get the opportunity to give the talk, the idea for small group is that they get the opportunity to have their say. So, in its inception, the term, I don't know if you actually use it, but many people talk about 'de-churched people'… people who, like me, come from a Christian cultural background, who maybe went to a Christian school, or have Christianity within their family, but are no longer churchgoers; these people may consider themselves to be Christians or, like me, atheists, but they have an understanding of who Jesus was and how Christianity basically works. So, we started to adapt it, but we didn't do too much to it, so we left it pretty well as it was, because it seemed to be working - that was the point. Well, experience of thinking of Christianity as boring, for example, because they've got no experience at all of Christianity. They're not registered in China for example. I pulled a quote out from you from an earlier interview in which you referred to the Bilbe referring to homosexuality as something that could be healed. You say that with a liberal hat on, in a congregation which is incredibly diverse in the centre of London. Their UK figure would be a bit higher than that, but we've stuck with 2 million. Certainly there is plenty of scientific evidence on what's going on. Succession is taking place already AR: Everyone I've spoken to who's done an Alpha says that there people on the course who have done it before. It predates Alpha by a long way… NG: And in every area of our life we need to be healed and restored and to become more Christ-like. Why do you think there's so much hostility towards religion and, specifically, Christianity, in Britain these days? It's something that helps them. But if I'd gone to a Pentecostal church or if I'd come here, the atmosphere to encourage glossolalia would have been far stronger, presumably?